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cutting edge stuff

Started by Colleen Dick Nov 19, 2009. 0 Replies

Any locals using Doctrine with Zend Framework? or just Doctrine by itself? Anybody testing cutting edge stuff with PHP 5.3? Inquiring minds want to know! Anyone interested in setting up a shared test…Continue

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Huh? I have typically always…

Huh? I have typically always followed the leader. Once and I while I become the leader but most of the time I follow the leader. I learned most of what I know in the 1st grade. Your response makes you the leader and I know you did not learn this in the 1st grade. Heck, I just celebrated my 66th birthday and of course didn't have the option of separation of content from design/presentation and behavior. We just kind of leaned our ABC's and stuff cuz no computers had been invented. I guess I…

I have typically always follo…

I have typically always followed separation of content from design/presentation and behavior. Behavior is two-fold, if the browser supports the Javascript, it uses it; if not, it falls back to old non-Ajaxian server request page refresh behavior. If the presentation layer isn't supported (CSS) then it should gracefully fall back to semantically correct (X)HTML that a screen reader or web-crawler can use. Which tells you what the base of the the layers are: semantically rich markup.

For…

Colleen, at ProWorks we like…

Colleen, at ProWorks we like to think of web projects in four layers. Each layer is important and needs to support the other layers.

1) Database/Content
2) Function/Business
3) Design/Interface
4) Purpose/Strategy


In general its pretty similar to the article you shared and other muiti-tiered development approaches. What would you like to chat about?

Yes, I endorse that as good.…

Yes, I endorse that as good.

Generally my behavior layer is jQuery and then I use the normal XHTML (content)/CSS (style) layers.]

What do you want to talk about?

any designers familiar with t…

any designers familiar with the three layers of frontend as in http://webdesign.about.com/od/intermediatetutorials/a/aa010707.htm I want to talk to you.

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Comment by Jeff Jimerson on November 19, 2009 at 2:49pm
Blam. #6.
Comment by Jeff Jimerson on November 19, 2009 at 2:49pm
This is where all the cool people hang out, right?
Comment by Hope Leman on November 19, 2009 at 2:52pm
Apparently! And we're good lookin', too.
Comment by Loyan Roylance on November 19, 2009 at 3:01pm
Colleen, please feel free to start a tech discussion anywhere. Honestly this is the wild frontier. We are still feeling our way around.

coolJeff, we are still cool people wannabes until we pop our collars in our profile photos. That's when we will know we've made it.
Comment by Jason Prothero on November 19, 2009 at 3:01pm
I've been using perseverate lately...
Comment by Jason Prothero on November 19, 2009 at 3:08pm
Nah, you need more than one popped collar

Colleen, are you overseas?
Comment by Colleen Dick on November 19, 2009 at 4:24pm
only that I've been looking for a designer like that for some time. Who can see things visually but who also can abstract. It would be a good team mate for me because I primarily work under the hood. And most designers brains don't work that way. I'm referring specifically to a three tier DESIGN approach completely separate from an also tiered backend approach.
Comment by Colleen Dick on November 19, 2009 at 4:32pm
now were talking, I presume you mean perservere. It looks to be a similar idea for the front end. And honestly with better clientside tools I look for the boundary between web browser app and desktop app to blur in the future. and yes I am in Australia, but the dog has run more than halfway into the woods.
Comment by Hope Leman on November 19, 2009 at 4:38pm
Hi, Colleen. I am pretty sure Jason did mean perseverate, as in engage in obsessive repetition of the same action or behavior.

Interesting idea about the boundary between web browser app and desktop app. Do you buy the idea (which I have seen somewhere) that the browser itself will become irrelevant?
Comment by Colleen Dick on November 19, 2009 at 5:02pm
perserverate, eh? ;)

Yes, I believe the browser will eventually become irrelevant because:
the back end is moving more into the cloud
clientside stuff that talks to the cloud is becoming more prevalent

The idea of a thin client has been around for some time. It could even be a multilayered approach, i.e. a lan might consist of a bunch of extremely thin clients sharing a local lightweight server that proxies into the cloud.

but the browser as we know will still be around for some time to come.

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